You all already should've read the Integrating Sources section in your
textbook (starting on pg. 61), so I'm going to build on that rather than
repeat what you've already read. Integrating your secondary source
material into your PSA as you create your SSI is a really important part
of the process.
Ex. Because NFL athletes are often young and don't receive any formal financial training, "nearly half of all pro-football players will file for bankruptcy at least once in their lives" (McGregor 92).
Ex. "Nearly half of all pro-football players will file for bankruptcy at least once in their lives," suggesting that NFL players are not provided with the right financial tools to manage the large sums of money they temporarily bring in (McGregor 92).
The popcorn method involves sprinkling short snippets of quoted material within your own sentence.
Ex. The NFL has a known issue with players "fil[ing] for bankruptcy" and has down little to address the issue with affects "nearly half of all pro-football players" (McGregor 92).
You can see how with each of these methods, the writer is using the quoted material to boost what they're saying rather than letting the source material take over the sentence. We don't want the reader to have to interpret the quoted material on their own or what for a new sentence to accomplish that work. Your paper will flow smoother and your quoted materials will seamlessly support your own ideas rather than dominating your voice right off the page.
For your response:
EITHER, how have you integrated quoted material in the past? Are you a heavy paraphraser? A quote dropper? A long quote fan? (which we want to avoid for the ARP, but is definitely okay in other classes if that's what the assignment calls for).
OR, what makes you nervous or concerns you about implementing quote integration? Is this something you've done before? Have you done it differently for other classes? Is quote integration something you're really excellent at?
OR, follow up to at least TWO students responses.
Pitfalls to avoid:
- Quote dropping: including a full sentence or more of quoted material into your paper without any of your own words.
- Using Attributes instead of Integration: Phrased like "According to Dr. Abdul" and "In her article, "The Sound and the Furry," Catalina Gorbenson says, 'BLAH BLAH BLAH.'" When you use attribution tags to identify where your quote came from (the article title) or who wrote it (the author), you aren't actually engaging with the content of the quote. While it's helpful to include acknowledge sources both in your text as well as in your citations, that's not full quote integration because you aren't showing the reader that you understand the content of the quote and how it relates to your topic.
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How to Integrate Those Quotes!
Method 1: Introduction
When you integrate you quoted material using the introduction method, you begin your sentence with your own words and then transition to the quoted material.Ex. Because NFL athletes are often young and don't receive any formal financial training, "nearly half of all pro-football players will file for bankruptcy at least once in their lives" (McGregor 92).
Method 2: Interpretation
Integrating your quotes using the interpretation method means you'll begin your sentence with the quote material and then shift to your own words.
Ex. "Nearly half of all pro-football players will file for bankruptcy at least once in their lives," suggesting that NFL players are not provided with the right financial tools to manage the large sums of money they temporarily bring in (McGregor 92).
Method 3: Popcorn Quotes
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Ex. The NFL has a known issue with players "fil[ing] for bankruptcy" and has down little to address the issue with affects "nearly half of all pro-football players" (McGregor 92).
You can see how with each of these methods, the writer is using the quoted material to boost what they're saying rather than letting the source material take over the sentence. We don't want the reader to have to interpret the quoted material on their own or what for a new sentence to accomplish that work. Your paper will flow smoother and your quoted materials will seamlessly support your own ideas rather than dominating your voice right off the page.
For your response:
EITHER, how have you integrated quoted material in the past? Are you a heavy paraphraser? A quote dropper? A long quote fan? (which we want to avoid for the ARP, but is definitely okay in other classes if that's what the assignment calls for).
OR, what makes you nervous or concerns you about implementing quote integration? Is this something you've done before? Have you done it differently for other classes? Is quote integration something you're really excellent at?
OR, follow up to at least TWO students responses.
Nicole Hoeflinger
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In my other classes I normally introduce and expand upon the quote but would fall under the "quote dropper" category. I typically keep the whole sentence or two as the author has them and directly quote them. I will refrain from this technique in this secondary source integration.
Quote dropping can definitely work in other classes, if that fits with the type of paper you're writing.
DeleteQiumeng He
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I used to quote many paragraphs to support my view when I wrote articles before. When I took English 1902, I learnt another totally different way to quote sentences, how to quote others' opinions was one of the main points in that course. For MLA format, I think it is more useful because you can combine your own idea with others' naturally. In this way, you can also prove your point is true
Oh yeah, definitely don't want to be doing whole paragraphs unless you're writing a lengthy lit review or something.
DeleteAfter I read this article and the three high-quality methods, I realize that I made a mistake in my past writing assignments. I'm a quote dropper before. I have a preference on dropping all kinds of prestige quotation to my article in order to make my paper looks persuasive. Sometimes, I believe, the more quotes (the legible and credible) you use, your articles would look more convincing and forceful. Also, in the past, I try my best to select most important part of the quotes in my second source without any of my own words. But now I found that it is an incorrect way, I fail to integrate my quotes materials using my own words.
ReplyDeleteYes, we definitely want to see YOUR persuasive methods as the writer with the secondary source info playing a supportive role.
DeleteI didn't do a good job in my previous paper. I know that wrong quote integration sometime would consider as plagiarism. Such as just change some words but still use the original structure, or quote a lot. Now I learned three methods in the article with good examples, I might think about it when I quote something in my future paper. I feel it's a little difficult for me because I have trouble on interpret my quotes sometime. I would just use different words to simply explain it, but not clear. I think I really need to find a way to improve it.
ReplyDeleteYou'll have lots of practice integrating quotes in this class.
DeleteThe thing that makes me the most nervous about integrating quotes is that I am not doing it in a smooth way or I am not citing the source thoroughly enough. I have had to integrate quotes for many high school papers before but not yet in college. I was never really taught how to integrate a quote well. Most of the time I have just dropped the quote and moved on.
ReplyDeleteIntegrating smoothly definitely takes some practice.
Deletelim.1215
ReplyDeleteI have attended the 1902 English class and learned to integrate the sources properly. As you use other people words or quotes in your paper, you should cited them for the proper format and it also shows kind of respects to the writers. Before that, I was never do proper citing on my paper, and I realized I made a lots of mistakes in my paper, some of it could be considered "plagiarism", and I realized it's a serious matter over here.
Glad Eng 1902 was helpful!
DeleteJordan Helphrey
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After reading this article, I realize that I am a big time quote dropper, and also a long-quote user. I have never had someone explain this to me, or read about the correct usages of quotes. This article does help and also does a good job giving details on the dos and do nots. I can see by using these steps it will make a paper look and read more smoothly. I do have some stress when I do try to place quotes in my paper. Is it the right length, did I do a good job at using it to clarify my message, should I place it at the beginning of a sentence or end with it. These are the things I think about when writing, and this article will help.
Oh, no! A big time quote dropper! Longer quotes can work in other classes/papers, so just keep that in mind.
DeleteIn my previous classes I have used all the different types of integrating quotes. For my previous english classes it was usually paraphrasing or quote dropping, but for writing research papers I usually used long quotes as evidence to show the paper was reliable and had outside information that I backed up on my own.
ReplyDeleteGlad to see you've done it all. Long quotes are definitely appropriate in longer research papers that you might write in other classes.
DeleteXinhai Ni
ReplyDeleteni.249
In the past, I found it was kind of hard to do the citation smoothly and determine how much of the paper could be quotes. This article does help me a lot and talking about the research paper, I would still be a little bit nervous when sometimes I'm not sure how to interpret it clearly, namely the relationship between the quote parts and the following arguments or the analysis.
Glad the post helped!
DeleteFan Liu (liu.6303)
ReplyDeleteThe biggest concern of mine is that whether I can implementing quote interruption in a proper format. I used to integrate quoted material in 1902 course, and we used the APA format to do that. I do not worry too much about the interpretation for the material. But I think the introduction for the quote material is usually ignored by us. It is important to have a transition ahead the quotation, which makes the paragraph more logical and fluent. In my opinion, popcorn quotes requires us stronger ability of interpreting the information, and I would like to try it!
Just make sure you use MLA for this class!
DeleteIn my previous class, I use attributes instead of integration. I just address the author’s name, the title of the article and the quotation I chose from the article. And then, I will analyze how this quotation relates to the main theme of my paper in my own words. Yet, after reading this article, I learn some new approaches to integrate quotation into my own analysis paper. Since I never try this method before, so I am a little bit afraid that I will do that badly. Also, I am not good at connecting the quotation with my paper thesis together, but I hope I can figure out the method to deal with this problem in the process of writing ARP.
ReplyDeleteSometimes just attributes would be fine, but we're trying to integrate even further for the ARP.
Deletezhu.2166
ReplyDeleteI made a lot of mistakes using quotes in the past. I used to copy and paste the whole long sentence to quote without proper formatting. I was a quote dropper and a long quote fan. I thought that if I used the whole sentence, I could make myself clearer enough for the readers. I felt like It's more believable and convincing for me to write with longer quotes, but that's not true. I read the instructions of quoting and I realize that there are many ways to quote instead of listing them all. My preference when quoting would be the "Popcorn Quotes", which is impressive and vivid.
I think a lot of people are long quote fans since it helps fill up space and lends credibility, but we want to see your analysis take center stage.
DeleteI'm a little nervous that I will have trouble finding an article and being able to smoothly work the quote into my paper. In high school I have quoted short things in quotation marks followed by the authors name and the page in parentheses with an annotated bibliography on the last page. Some classes I just do an annotated bibliography or paraphrase and say the source instead of using quotes. In the past I have been pretty good at weaving quotes in the paper, I think the harder thing will be finding a good article.
ReplyDeleteFinding solid sources is definitely a challenge.
DeleteI took EDULT 1902 and learned to avoid paraphrasing last semester. However, after reading this article, I found that I was a quote dropper and did not know how to quote without interrupting my readers. These three methods taught me how to integrate quote. I like the third method best and can not wait to try these methods in my SSI.
ReplyDeleteYou mean avoid plagiarism, right? Paraphrase is fine.
DeleteI often use paraphrasing when I am referencing an outside source. I know that this may not be as effective as directly quoting the material, but its seems to be a better option then using large, bulky quote. I have definitely also been a quote dropper in the past as I have found I wanted to quote a whole sentence. For the ARP, I will make sure to avoid quote dropping and attempt to integrate my quotes more effectively.
ReplyDeleteParaphrasing is definitely the right choice for bulky quotes.
DeleteIn the past, I have integrated my quoted support material using a combination of a few of these methods. First, I do like using the interpretation method. I will generally start the paragraph with the claim or argument I am trying to make. Then, I will briefly introduce my topic of support for this claim. Finally, I will use the interpretation method of starting my sentence with the quoted material, while ending the sentence with why this content supports my claim. Furthermore, I will usually follow this up with one or two further sentences of interpretation of the evidence I have provided. I think this method is especially effective if you want to use a quote for emphasis of a point. The other method I like to use for incorporating evidence from sources is paraphrasing. Paraphrasing is especially useful when the source contains a lot of evidence to support my argument, but the information is way too long to fully quote in the paper. By using this method, it helps to maintain the bulk of the ideas of the source without losing content.
ReplyDeleteSounds like you're a bit of a quote-pro!
DeleteI am definitely a quote dropper or a heavy paraphraser, and have used this method for nearly every writing assignment without any teacher or professor correcting me against it. Having never integrated quotes in the manner described above, and the method required for the ARP, I'm a little bit apprehensive on how well I will be able to execute the technique. There's a first time for everything!
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DeleteI agree with you about being a heavy quote dropper. It is as well my first time using the methods listed above about how to integrate the quotes. Like you said this paper has been a new experience for me. I really do hope that I get the hang of it.
Quote dropping and heavy paraphrasing isn't really incorrect, it's just not what we're doing for this type of assignment. And now, you'll have even more quoting methods in your bag of tricks.
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ReplyDeleteIn previous, papers, I like to integrate different types of quotes. I am not usually a long quote person, but rather more paraphrasing and quote dropping. I enjoy adding quotes to papers because I feel that it makes my argument more powerful, proving there are other sources that back me up on my view. The only thing I get nervous about is finding an entire paragraph of a source to be very important and relevant for my audience to know, but trying to condense it in a way where I am accurately giving credit to the writer.
ReplyDeleteYeah, a long paragraph would probably need to be paraphrased into a sentence or two, which can be tricky.
DeleteDefinitely, I am a quote dropper. Although I had taken EDUTL 1902 before, it is still difficult for me to quote rightly. It is really hard for me to quote something without interrupting readers. I just quote something so suddenly. I think these methods could help me to do it better.
ReplyDeleteThis is a really good point. Switching from your writing style to someone else's can make for an odd experience for the reader.
DeleteFirst, I want to say that the best popcorn GIF is definitely the Deadpool popcorn GIF.
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Onto more serious matters. I was taught to incorporate quotes into a sentence that makes the quote fit into the paper without a abrupt shift in language, and to never explain the quote but rather to expand on the quote. This means that you extract from the quote that which is relevant and then extrapolate upon it. I have always generally disliked blocked quotes. These long quotes in the middle of a paper are sometimes necessary, but they are overused and rarely used well. The whole reason that quote dropping is so bad as a matter of content and style, is because it does not advance the ideas that already exist, and it creates a quick change in style that is often not bridged well and disrupts the flow of the paper.
When you publish your response and instantly notice a grammatical error in the third sentence. "a abrupt"
DeleteHaha, what is happening in that popcorn gif. Does he not have a mouth? And don't worry, I always catch my errors right after I hit "publish."
DeleteSam McGhee.118
ReplyDeleteI am someone who often drops huge quotes in a body of text. I probably subconsciously do this because it makes my paper longer and thus fulfills the length requirement quicker. I also do not explain my quote in the same sentence that I introduce the quote, as was suggested in this blog post. I need to work on incorporating my quotes in a more effective manner when looking at my research paper.
Yep, I remember being in undergrad and using those big block quotes when I had a page minimum to hit.
DeleteIn the past of my integrating quoted material, I'd like to first determine the point I want to stand for the whole paper and to find two quotes to support my point.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I'm like a quote dropper because as I choose two quotes I will use two paraphrases to talk about the points of the quotes deeply like to analysis it and to add more of my personal opinions. That was what I did in the EDUTL 1902 and I will always avoid using too many quotes but to focus on at most two quotes to support my opinion.
zhang.8902
Just make sure you are referencing your secondary source material more than twice!
Deletecai.694
ReplyDeleteActually, I am a little bit concerned about implementing quote integration. I wrote some academic paper in my course I took last semester, and I found out that my quote integration is lack of variation. I always use the same several patterns, which makes my quote integration seems boring. The three ways mentioned in this passage is very useful, I should try them in my ARP.
Holly Zhao (zhao.2576)
DeleteWhen I wrote academic writing for the first time in university, I had the same problem as yours. But after taking ENGLISH 1902 (I think you may also took), the situation became different. The quotation is not only some sentences from other writing as I thought, but also could be other materials. And I also think the three ways which mentioned in this writing are useful for my further writing.
That's actually a really astute observation. Catching repetitive patterns can be so important in creating a smooth, interesting read.
DeleteI'm worried about misunderstanding the requirement of quoting and have trouble delivering the information needed for quoting in a proper way. I have done it last semester. But I didn't take command of it successfully and made some mistakes. I think I really need to learn it carefully this time.
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DeleteYikes! I am very nervous now because this is my first time integrating my quotes! You said you did this last semester and weren’t able to successful do it. I am nervous about if the mistakes that you committed are common amongst other students. I really do hope to integrate my quotes effectively.
I would guess it's most students' first time integrating, so don't be worried!
Deletetang.1251
ReplyDeleteThe thing that makes me the most nervous about integrating quotes is that I can not make good use of quotes to elaborate my thoughts and use the proper quotes at the proper time. In the past, when I was dropping quotes, my classmates and teachers always felt that my quotes are dispensable, like the tasks of using quotes in an article. This is my first time to use MLA format.
Interesting that previous readers felt the quotes weren't pulling their weight.
DeleteDuring high school, my teachers emphasized heavily to never quote drop, and instead encouraged us to integrate quotes in whichever way possible, so I have experience with introduction, interpretation, and the popcorn method.
ReplyDeleteI like your high school teachers!
Deletewang.10635
ReplyDeleteI am not good at quote integration and actually I am a quote dropper since I cannot apply them correctly and properly. Even though I know they are significant as they could make the article more reliable, sometimes I still failed to choose the proper quote and use it as a point to support my view in the article.
It can be hard to find relevant, credible information. That's why working on your research methods is so important.
DeleteIn most classes that I took in High school, I fell under the quote dropping category and long quote category. From looking at the popcorn method, I feel more justifiable using quotes. Before, I would use these quotes to fill pages, but the popcorn method can really help this. Also I will elaborate on the quotes as well.
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Yeah, I think a lot of students (past Prof RS included) used longer quotes to take up real estate.
DeleteImplementing quotes in my writing is something I have been required to do since freshman year in high school. During that time I never got nervous about doing it, in fact I enjoyed dropping quotes because it got my word count up. Now that I am in college I do get nervous because I have already had classes where quote dropping is not favored. However, when I am writing I feel as though quoting things is a necessity to reference, or to further explain things with the quotes. I am not excellent as using quotes, but I am definitely comfortable with it.
ReplyDeleteGlad to see you've had some experience with this.
DeleteOver the many papers that I have written which involved quotes, I would say that most of the time, my go-to method would be the introduction. I feel that this is the easiest way of setting up the quote so the the audience will understand what is being talked about. I do also remember a few instances of using the popcorn method, but I would definitely say that the introduction method is the one that I am most comfortable with.
ReplyDeleteI like introduction, too.
DeleteI'm definitely someone who relies on attribution too much over integration. I feel that I need to provide context to the author of the quote as well as the context behind it, so I often fail to properly transition into the quotes. I need to spend more time transitioning to the quote and analyzing what it means,
ReplyDeleteYes, transitions are so important when working with quoted material.
DeleteI do think introduction is a great method that I never use before. I would say that I did quote integration not very well in my past papers because I am a fan of long quote. I will try to practice integrate quote instead of just "copying and pasting".
ReplyDeleteGlad to hear you're interested in the introduction method!
DeleteXianqin Qiu
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I used to use attributes like " in ....'s article, " to draw forth my quote, which I think is the most explicit method to show readers what is your quote and what is your own perspective. In other classes I have ever taken, such as the EDUTL 1902, my instructor asks us to do like that. She requires us to master the skills of quote and paraphrase, so we often need to emphasize what we refer to. Besides, heavy paraphrase, long quote withe little analysis is also acceptable in 1902, which is totally different from this class.
Yep, you'll have to adapt your writing and practice new skills depending on what type of assignment you're working with.
DeleteHanxia Zhang
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What makes me feel nervous about implementing quote integration is that I cannot intercept the most useful parts. Sometimes, I can find the appropriate resources, however, I cannot judge correctly that which part is the most useful. So, I usually insert a lot of the resources into my essay, which makes my essay lenthy and without clearly purpose or statement. This is the aspect that makes me really nervous. And I have done this kind of thing last semester in 1902, but I did not master it.
Yeah, finding the crucial quotes is an important part of being a good research writer.
DeleteIn the past, I would say that I am somewhere between a paraphraser and a quote dropper. I prefer using method 1. I like to create an introduction to the quote and then add the quote to my sentence. I definitely enjoy paraphrasing because then I do not have to worry about messing up my notations. I do enjoy using many quotes because I like interpreting and using the quotes to my advantage.
ReplyDeleteYes. Method 1 is the most commend in essay writing I think.
DeleteMake sure you're still using citations even if you paraphrase (you just drop the quote marks).
Deletechen.6971
ReplyDeleteUsually, I’m more like a quote dropper rather than a heavy paraphraser. It is somewhat easier to cause the plagiarism when we are doing the paraphrasing uncarefully or using the words or structure which are too similar to the original text. So using the quote and then analyze it including your own thoughts is better than paraphrasing to me. Also, sometimes you will find a text which is so good that you cannot forget to quote the author’s original words.
Yes, that is the perfect reason to quote (when the wording is just so perfect that meaning will be lost without the exact wording).
DeleteI am definitely a big fan of the Introduction method when integrating quotes. I like to say something about the quote I am about to use in the first half of the sentence, and then add the quote in the middle or the end of the sentence to smooth out the topic with a quoted support of the topic discussed in the sentence. Humorously, I do not understand why it would be okay for someone to put an isolated quote in the middle of a paragraph. That would just seem choppy and abrupt without any flow or judgement.
ReplyDeleteDenish gets it!
DeleteI really enjoy using the introduction method and the popcorn quotes. With this methods, the quote blends seamlessly with the rest of the essay and the reader is able to understand more the sources used. It is definitely harder to implement these methods instead of just writing, "the paper says". But at the end I feel it is worth the extra time and effort. I still have a lot to learn to perfect quote integration, but I've definitely practiced it in some of my past essays.
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DeleteA lot of students really like the popcorn method and it has a fun name, but it's the one that comes least naturally to me. Love how you say it's worth the time and effort. (Everyone listen to Silvana!)
DeleteQuotes used in a paper can prove and support our ideas and it always enriches our content and ideas. However, I am very worried about that I can't make a proper quote in my paper. I have attended class 1902 and my professor pointed that my quotes can't support my ideas well. I have to find more materials and connect them with my paper. It's not a easy process and if quotes cannot be used in the proper position, It will not come to its full play in our paper. I didn't do a good job before and I think it's necessary for me to improve this skill in my paper.
ReplyDeleteFinding relevant secondary source material/quotes is hard, hard work for sure.
DeleteI usually take advantage of all the little gaps in my paper and fill them up with the necessary quotes. This approach doesn't always provide the necessary flow that my paper needs, but it drastically decreases the effort needed to complete my papers. I will definitely use the methods listed above when writing my ARP. My greatest focus will be integrating my quotes adequately rather than throwing it in whenever possible.
ReplyDeleteI agree. The content of the essay will become clearer to readers.
DeleteHaha, I like your honesty.
DeleteIn past classes, I would say that I have used paraphrasing and popcorn quotes. The women's studies classes that I took required a lot of writing. The method that I found most useful was to paraphrase things into my own words. If needed though, I would intersperse quotes if I felt it strengthened what I needed to say. All the sources however were from lectures and readings assigned by the professor however, so I didn't have to go out and find my own sources for those papers. I just needed to be well-acquainted with the material to know where to find the information I needed.
ReplyDeleteFinding your own research can be a lot of work, but it's great you already feel comfortable integrating.
DeleteJingan Zhang.8776
ReplyDeleteAlmost two years ago, I need to say that I always using attribute in my paper. For example I like using " According to...'s article" as the beginning of my quotes, because I think this is the easy and obvious way to make reader understand I am going to use other's words instead of mine. However, I choose to roll in a writing class last year, and I beginning to integrating my quotes using the interpretation method, because I like to use my own word to explain the quote I used in my paper and I think this method can help me to use quote reasonably. Something make me feel nervous is that I cannot make sure how many quotes are enough for my paper, in other word I afraid I will use to much quote to make my essay seems boring.
I would limit quoted material to 3-4 short quotes per page, and that's the max.
DeleteZhiming Zhu
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In my class EDUTL 1902 last semester I learned how to quote and paraphrase. My instructor told us that we should avoid heavy citation and we have only quote twice at most in our essay. So I paraphrased and provided my interpretation in my essay most of the time when I used secondary source. I think this blog gives more details and practical instruction in how to integrate quotes effectively and reader-friendly. I would be very useful in my SSI.
You'll probably quote more than twice in the ARP, but that's an 8 page essay. I would say 2-4 quotes or paraphrased sentences per page, but it depends on how you are using your secondary source info.
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